The ancestral graves are in other people's fields. After his father died, he went to his ancestral grave. What if others don't want to do it?
Now go back and answer the Lord's question. In the case of your ancestral grave, the land contractor has no right to stop it. You can consult the village Committee to solve it. There can be no rules anywhere. You just have to follow the rules and say hello to each other first. Even if you pay, there are standards in the village. If he dares to ask for more, it means raising the standard. Naturally, some people are unwilling to refuse to bury the dead in your house. This is absolutely wrong. Don't screw things up. If your local people have their own decisions, it will be very difficult. You can also refuse them to bury people in your house.
At the beginning of the year, my father-in-law died, and I encountered such a problem. Let me share the process for your reference. A few years ago, my father-in-law's mother died and was buried in someone else's field. This time, the father of the old father-in-law passed away and they will be buried together. The owner of the land just doesn't want to move the grave.
At that time, my father-in-law asked someone to negotiate with the owner of that land. The owner of the land flatly refused, saying that there was no room for mercy and he would not show any respect to the villagers. It happens that my father-in-law's neighbor has a good relationship with the owner of that land, so let him talk about it. The neighbor said that it is very important for people to die and want to be buried in the grave. They are all villagers, but they don't look up at them. They want to show goodwill and ask for money or something. Then the owner of the land spoke, saying directly that they wanted 20 thousand, not a penny less.
My father-in-law is very embarrassed. He wants too much money and can't accept it. But you don't agree that old people can't be buried, so they can't be buried. It's not a problem to keep it there. We have to go to the village cadres. In the countryside, we are still afraid of village cadres, but we also give some face. The village cadres have gone, and they are both hard and soft. Although the land belongs to you, it also belongs to the country. Besides, there are no graves now. If the crops are destroyed, you can pay for it. But if you want 20 thousand, it means fishing in troubled waters. To put it bluntly, it is extortion. This soft and hard, this person agreed in order not to offend the village head. The village chief counted and gave 3000 yuan. That's it. That's settled.
In the countryside, if you have nothing against their family. After your father died, he went to the ancestral grave, but the owner of the land did not want to. In fact, he just wants to fish in troubled waters and get benefits. I think you can let the influential people in the village speak. When the money is in place, there is nothing you can't do. This kind of thing is very common in rural areas. In the end, it is all solved with money, depending on the problem. This is the only solution.
I have encountered the problem you mentioned. I contracted someone else's ancestral graves in the field. This family, with both money and people, said that the ancestral grave was good and they were reluctant to move it. They asked people to discuss with me with gifts. The family put forward two conditions: one is to ask for money and give as much as you want; Second, they changed the land and chose whatever they wanted. My reply to him was, bury it, let it pass first, and then we will discuss it.
After what happened, I don't think it's appropriate to charge any money. The grandson of the deceased has a piece of land next to my house. I want to change land, which is a bit unfortunate. My two acres of first-class land were exchanged for his one-and-a-half-second-class land and one-and-a-half-first-class land, and then I gave him one-acre, third-class land, so I exchanged two-acre, three-acre land for his two-acre, three-point land and asked someone to discuss it with the son of the deceased.
But when the land was changed, the grandson of the deceased refused. "You can't use your grandson's land for land exchange, you have to find his son." I didn't embarrass him when someone was buried in his house. When I changed land, I had to consult someone again and again. Of course I was angry. The son of the deceased said, "Well, I have three acres of second-class land, and I will give you two acres of first-class land for three acres.
Back to your home, there are some places you can learn from.
As one's own ancestral grave, it can be said that this phenomenon exists in most places. There are indeed various situations and ways to deal with the death of a loved one who was called into the ancestral grave. Let me introduce the actual situation and treatment methods here for your reference.
Everyone has a living relative;
In rural areas, whether it is burial or cremation, it is after the ashes are reloaded into the coffin. This fully shows that everyone's loved ones will be laid to rest after they die. Is to dig a hole and bury it in your ancestral grave. Of course, this ratio will definitely involve land occupation, and some crops may be destroyed when buried. This is absolutely correct.
(2) A reasonable person:
As most reasonable people in rural areas, there will be times when their loved ones die. In case his ancestral grave is in the responsibility field contracted by him, you should say hello to him first as long as it is buried. Because it will occupy his contracted land after being buried, and it will also destroy some crops after being buried. Most people will talk about it with money and deal with it as economic compensation. As those reasonable people, he won't take money. Just try to destroy crops as little as possible during burial, including paying attention to destroying crops less during holidays in the future. This is a reasonable man.
(3) Economic treatment:
As the ancestral graves contracted by others, of course, they will occupy his land area during burial and later period, and will also destroy his crops during festivals. Such people will calculate all the economic losses of crops when they are buried and talk, and treat them with money at one time. But I think this is also a fair and just way to treat human nature.
(4) Some disagree:
As the subject said, no matter what method you use to talk about it, he will not agree to be buried in the responsibility field he contracted, nor will he say what the ancestral grave is, but it will not be buried again. This kind of person actually accounts for a large part. His reason is that when relatives die, they are buried in their own contracted land. But he didn't finish this road, that is, if his relatives had a relative in advance, they would have been buried in his responsible field, and the next relative would be buried in the tomb of the bodhi old zu, which is called joint burial. If it's a new cemetery, he won't agree anyway. Only buried in their own land. This is the actual situation here.
When my mother died 20 years ago, the small county could still be buried. Since we have no land, and the urban hukou has no land, we took a fancy to a piece of land through introduction. But the land belongs to others, and it is still the same thing to sell it or not. I took two bottles of wine and two cigarettes to discuss with this family. At first, some people were asking for money all over the sky, and the opening price was 50 thousand. That land has been contracted by others, and the barren hills are full of stones and weeds, so it is impossible to grow crops. Just a few square meters, it's not worth 50 thousand in any case. But the funeral can't wait. Desperate, I found a classmate who was the mayor to make peace. The effect is very good. The seller not only offered 1200 plot of land, but also came to me to put in a good word and help with the funeral. It turns out that my classmate is responsible for the examination and approval of the contracting right of that barren mountain.
Now the trouble is coming again. My father is ninety years old. Leave a message and bury it in front of mother's grave after cremation. I must buy another piece of land. The original seller died. I don't know how to get a piece of land this time. Still have their own convenience.
Most ancestral graves are buried in other people's fields, which is a legacy before subcontracting. Nowadays, most fruit trees are planted in the north. If you want to bury people in other people's fields, others will certainly not want to occupy land, damage trees, affect production, and it is inconvenient to cultivate, and sometimes the water will sink. At this time, the old man will be buried, so I have to ask someone to coordinate. I said it for others several times, and it was all well solved. /kloc-a person was buried 0/0 years ago, and the compensation cost was 30O yuan. Three years ago, another man was buried to compensate 500 yuan. An agreement was reached in advance to level the tomb three years later, which not only satisfied the wishes of the two families, but also did not affect the main family's farming. It is impractical to exchange land with the main family. Is it the same size? The size and variety of fruit trees are difficult to realize land exchange. It is impossible to move the grave here. Even more taboo to dig the bones of their ancestors. There is a saying here that if someone has an accident, he will say that the graves of his ancestors have been used up and it is impossible to move them. Only when the agreement is reconciled, human feelings will still exist, and every family has its own problems. If it is really impossible to communicate, then you have to build a new grave and bury it in your own cultivated land. leave
In our hometown, local families basically have ancestral graves. The old man died and was buried directly in the ancestral grave. In our village, there are basically two ways to treat ancestral graves.
First: land replacement. Trade less for more, fat for thinness, and near for distance.
Our ancestral graves used to occupy the farmland of our hometown, and only my great-grandfather slept there at the earliest, so it was not a big problem. My grandfather died 30 years ago, just in the summer. When he was buried, he damaged many corn crops.
Afterwards, my dad asked someone to make some compensation. At that time, folk customs were simple and villagers were harmonious. Lao Li said that he wanted neither money nor food.
Later, considering the good location of the ancestral grave, our family buried the old man there after his death. We also plan to simply repair the ancestral graves and plant some cypress trees around them.
Take the initiative to find Lao Li's family and talk to his family about the idea of replacing land with land. His field is less than two acres of dry land, and he can only grow corn. My family replaced it with 3 acres of paddy fields. At that time, a document was also written, and the old people in the village were invited to testify. Everyone held a banquet.
Another, many families in our village did the same, replacing the land, and the family suffered a little loss and asked others to give up the land where the ancestral grave was located. Basically, as long as it is mentioned, everyone will agree. Now most of the ancestral graves are in their own fields.
Second: the money to compensate others is basically 500. If there are crops in the field, they will be appropriately increased and coordinated by village cadres.
It turns out that even if our ancestral graves occupied other people's fields, no one mentioned compensation. They are all based on the principle of "the deceased is the biggest" and will not embarrass others' homes.
Later, once a peasant family leveled the grave and planted crops without informing the owner of the grave. Because of this big fight, the two families coordinated through village cadres, occupied other people's graves, and compensated 500 yuan according to one grave. At the same time, the landlord shall not obstruct others from building graves, burying the elderly and worshiping at the festival.
Since then, our village has maintained this practice. On the premise that ancestral graves occupy other people's fields and are not easy to replace, 500 yuan will be compensated for each additional grave. If the crops are damaged and buried in time, give two or three hundred more. This money is coordinated by the village cadres to help the two families, and it is usually handled afterwards.
What is a ancestral grave? Ancestral graves are inherited from ancestors. What you said about your land is also incorrect. The land belongs to the state, but you are contracting the responsible farmland of the state. The old man is dead. Where else can I go without going to the ancestral grave? Put yourself in everything. Where was the old man buried in your house after he left? Don't complicate simple things. If you feel damaged, you will be wronged. Nothing is absolute! You can consult the village Committee to solve it. However, if you don't ask others to be buried, this is not allowed by the civil law. If you consult and study the civil law and laws, you will be severely punished by the law if you forcibly build or destroy other people's graves.
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This situation is a new contradiction after the rural land is divided into households. Most people won't stop others from being buried with them, but some people do make trouble. Because this situation involves everyone, after the land is divided into households, there are only a few ancestral graves in the land contracted by them. Since most people's ancestral graves may be in other people's fields, most people will not embarrass others, because your ancestral graves may also be in other people's fields.
Of course, at that time, the production team and families took this issue into account when allocating land. It would be better to give the land with ancestral graves to the owners of ancestral graves. At that time, there were regulations that people could not divide it. At least, don't embarrass others when they are buried in the future. Of course, ancestral graves should try not to damage their own crops and compensate the losses reasonably. If the ancestral graves are not enough and need to be expanded, they should negotiate with others to solve it, or spend money to buy their land (only the right to use it), or exchange your land for others, and the village Committee should also help the two families solve it.
Back to the point. There are two reasons why you don't want your father to enter your ancestral grave: first, you are afraid of damaging his crops; Second, there are contradictions with family members.
If there is no contradiction between the two families, but they are afraid of damaging other people's crops, it is easy to solve. First, try not to damage other people's crops, or try to damage them as little as possible. If it is damaged, just pay the price.
If there is a contradiction between your two families, it is deliberately embarrassing you. This needs a third party to tell you, or the village Committee of Zhao will solve it. If it really doesn't work, there will be a court. In fact, the crux of this problem lies in the contradiction between the two families. If the contradiction can be resolved, it is not difficult to solve it.
However, it is best not to resort to law unless absolutely necessary. In this way, although he can't stop your father from entering Tibet, the contradiction of food prices will be deeper and there will be more disputes in the future. Therefore, it is best to find the village Committee to change the land.
The ancestral graves are in other people's fields. After his father died, he went to his ancestral grave. What if others don't want to do it?
This kind of thing is very common in rural areas, because some ancestral graves have a history of hundreds of years, and it is difficult to divide their ancestral graves into their own fields when they are divided into households. In this way, some people will always go to the grave, and there will be some minor contradictions in the future.
No one can guarantee that no old man will not go to the grave for the rest of his life. Usually, a reasonable person can't stop the old man from going to the grave after his death, and there is no loss for the general owner to compensate the landlord.
But in fact, everything will happen when there are many people. For example, there is a funeral home, but the landlord doesn't come over on weekdays, or it is a bit estranged, or the landlord is a person with low quality. Then when the victim needs to be buried in the ancestral grave, it is also an easy problem for the landlord to object or make an excuse not to. People can't make trouble without reason, especially when crops and other crops grow in the field, and some crops will be damaged at the funeral.
In this case, it is wise to find a village committee cadre or a prestigious steward to mediate as soon as possible, and the mourner will take the initiative to pay some compensation, and the specific amount will be coordinated by the steward and the landlord. Led by village cadres or stewards, the undertaker will usually bring some alcohol, tobacco and gifts to thank the landlord! As long as things are properly agreed. Under normal circumstances, there is no hereditary hatred, and no one is unreasonable in this matter, which can be solved well.
If you really meet someone who has a holiday or is unreasonable, the site at home is in charge and you are not allowed to go to the grave. You can only take legal procedures to solve it. The result is hard to predict, and how much money you can pay to compensate the landlord can be realized.
There are also those who are difficult to negotiate successfully, or escalate contradictions, or form cases. Some simply don't get angry with him and build new graves. Most of the owners of old graves don't mind.
In short, harmony is more important! We live in harmony and unite as one. These problems are nothing and can be properly solved. Whose door does the sun not pass? No one can stop anything, life is like this, be kind to others and the road will get wider and wider!