The old cemetery is now in someone else's field. Is it reasonable for them to ask for money? How do we solve this problem?
It depends on whether you buried the grave first or he divided the land first. If you are the ancestral grave of several generations and there is wasteland before you bury it, you don't have to give him money. If he divided the land first and then you buried the grave, you should give him money, but the latter situation no longer exists, that is, his land, and he will certainly not let you bury the grave.
This question, in an "unscientific" way, is it a grave before dividing the land? Or will there be a grave after the land is divided? Old grave, how long has it been? If it is an ancestral grave that existed before dividing the land, then the ancestral grave has the right to pass! Because when the production team distributed the plots to individuals for private use, there was an established rule for the cemetery, which was to "leave a sidewalk" for the descendants of the grave owner to sacrifice and bury. Ask the old people in the village about the service road! Due to the changes of the times, the original sidewalk may be occupied by others and planted with food crops. Try not to destroy the seedlings if it is not necessary. If it is really destroyed, no one will say anything, but it is impossible to stop the passage! It can be settled through negotiation. If negotiation fails, a lawsuit can be brought to the people's court to claim an easement.
I didn't need some money before dividing the land. Now I have to give some money to build a grave later, because it takes up other people's land.
This is a common phenomenon at present. Some places are old graves. If someone dies, they are not allowed to be buried on our land. We must find ways to do it ourselves. At present, this situation is quite common and everyone can understand it. After all, it occupies other people's cultivated land.
The customs in our hometown are very good. For example, his old grave is in my field, and if someone dies or is buried in my field, everyone can allow it This is our local custom, which means nothing to anyone. No one has stopped it yet. Once blocked, it will be very troublesome. Everyone knows that they all have old people, so everyone is very supportive.
No one in our family asks for money, but we usually take some gifts to tell others. Most of them don't want gifts, they are all from their own families. They are embarrassed, so our village is the most harmonious. Everyone can accept that the old man is buried in whose land he is dead. No one has raised any objection so far.
It is reasonable for the other party to ask for money. After all, land is private, and proper distribution is reasonable. Now there is a phenomenon in our local area. If the area of the old grave is much larger, it is acceptable for everyone to change places. This is a popular way and the method is very good.
Rural people need to ask Mr. Feng Shui to see Feng Shui when burying the dead old man. There are many stresses on seeing Feng Shui. They should choose the burial place according to the date of birth, attributes and heavenly stems and earthly branches of the dead old man. The final burial place is not necessarily on your own land, and the most suitable place is often someone else's land. At this time, you need to give someone some money before they will allow you to bury the dead old man on your own land. This fee varies from place to place. For example, in Bijie, Guizhou, my hometown, it is about 6000 to 10000, and some of it is regarded as a treasure trove of geomantic omen, ranging from 15000 to 30000.
This money must be given in advance, greeted in advance, and given in place. This is the minimum rule. But in the early days, such as the sixties and seventies, you may not need money. Just send a bottle of good wine or some dried noodles to say hello.
If your old grave has been buried, there are only two situations when others ask you for money:
Ignore him completely in this situation, and he will never dare to do anything to you again. If he threatens to destroy his ancestral grave, he can be sent directly to prison. This is a crime, depending on the seriousness of the case, he will be punished accordingly:
There is indeed such a situation. It has happened many times here, but it is not private land, but the land of forest farms. Because the forest farm is a national land resource, it is absolutely not allowed to bury graves in the site without permission, but some people took a fancy to the geomantic omen there and quietly buried their ancestral graves on the ground of the forest farm. Later, people in the forest farm found out that they wanted money because they dared not do anything. He also knows that it is illegal to destroy other people's ancestral graves.
However, in real life, there is really nothing stolen. People nowadays are very reasonable. If they take a fancy to other people's land, they will definitely say hello in advance and give the money in place, because we rural people are most afraid of disharmony when burying graves. This is a taboo, so the host family will not take such immoral risks.
This matter is very troublesome. Every family has a different temper, and there is no unified handling principle. From the perspective of agricultural development, it is not appropriate for each household to go its own way. Every village should build its own cemetery. It depends on the above policies and village cadres.
Old graves are normal in other people's fields! Because the years have changed, there are some old graves in other villages! Under normal circumstances, the annual paper burning memorial service can't destroy too much, but if someone in the family dies and needs to be buried in the grave, you have to tell the landlord. By the way, how much is the loss? After all, if you build a grave, you have to destroy the crops! We usually leave a grave for two years, and then flatten it before farming, with little loss! Just a few hundred to a thousand! But if you want to build a new grave, generally no one agrees! So our new graves are all in our own fields! Get close to others and see whose land can be used and whose land is used! Because it is my home, I basically don't have to pay for the loss!
This kind of thing often happens. When the land is divided, the old grave has been deducted from the land where the grave is left, so we don't charge money for the old grave here, but no grave is built when the land is divided. There are three ways.
One is buried in the old forest and needs to be discussed with the landlord. Usually give 1000 yuan.
The second is to exchange land and exchange it with your own good land.
Third, those who cannot be replaced will be buried in their own land, but some rich people will go to cemeteries. Because they will continue to rent in the cemetery for two years, most people are still willing to be buried in the original grave because the cemetery has more money.
The old grave is in someone else's house, and someone else's old grave may be in your house. Who has no ancestral graves? Is it like the Monkey King jumping out of a crack in the stone?
The old grave is in someone else's house, and the area of the grave has been excluded when measuring the judge's land. If the old graveyard is in another production team and the area of the graveyard has not been demolished, it can be discussed with the local village Committee.
Now they are all planned graves, which are different from before. If there are old people in the family, but they don't want to be buried in the graves planned by the team and want to be buried in other teams, the village committees of other teams will charge a certain fee, but there is no legal basis for the specific fee, which depends on your relationship with the local village Committee.