Which program did Shi Yuzhu talk about Feng Shui?

"Conversation". Shi Yuzhu said that people who don't believe it often have a successful career at the beginning and think that everything is created by their own abilities. However, once they encounter major setbacks and earth-shaking changes, they understand that everything is doomed. Ma Yun and Shi Yuzhu talked about Feng Shui on the show, and they firmly believed in it.